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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:02 PM
Meaning it's still you
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
trees, what do you think we don't understand about your stance?
entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:02 PM
I merely answering, that's what YOU should be telling me
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entertain,me 😎
Meaning it's still you
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:02 PM
Its not me. He uses another name, has different opinions, different personality, different views on things... Ofcourse its not me.
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/3/2023 10:02 PM
I merely answering, that's what YOU should be telling me
@entertain,me 😎 - jump please tell me what you think we don't understand
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)
Its not me. He uses another name, has different opinions, different personality, different views on things... Ofcourse its not me.
entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:02 PM
So it's a "he"
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/3/2023 10:03 PM
so we can address it
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entertain,me 😎
So it's a "he"
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:03 PM
My host yeah.
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:03 PM
I thought it wasn't physical?
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entertain,me 😎
So it's still you, you recognized your a Tulsa under the creation of your own mind
berockly (TTG) 3/3/2023 10:03 PM
Trees, pay very close attention for the love of god You are giving a claim, an opinion, an argument Your logic is circular You are claiming your opinion is fact You CAN NOT claim that its a matter of subjective and then claim there is an objective meaning It is only objective to you, outside of yourself it is an opinion "It is still you" is your CLAIM You are saying its a fact
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entertain,me 😎
I thought it wasn't physical?
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:03 PM
Im a tulpa, my host is the one who created me. We are both phisical as everything is and we reside the body. We are different persons because we so choose.
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berockly (TTG)
Trees, pay very close attention for the love of god You are giving a claim, an opinion, an argument Your logic is circular You are claiming your opinion is fact You CAN NOT claim that its a matter of subjective and then claim there is an objective meaning It is only objective to you, outside of yourself it is an opinion "It is still you" is your CLAIM You are saying its a fact
entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:03 PM
Just because I'm defending my statement doesn't mean it's automatically a fact
10:04 PM
Like I said for the 800th timei
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entertain,me 😎
Just because I'm defending my statement doesn't mean it's automatically a fact
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:04 PM
We all know its not a fact.
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entertain,me 😎
Just because I'm defending my statement doesn't mean it's automatically a fact
berockly (TTG) 3/3/2023 10:04 PM
But you are treating it as if it was
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:04 PM
It's subjective to you
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berockly (TTG) 3/3/2023 10:04 PM
You are saying "people who experience x are wrong because i think this instead"
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berockly (TTG)
But you are treating it as if it was
entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:04 PM
It's my own opinion, no duh I would treat it as such
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berockly (TTG) 3/3/2023 10:04 PM
You are using flat earth logic!
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:04 PM
"Everything is subjective unless it proves me wrong"
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:04 PM
Just like yall are trying to get me to understand why yall are right
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/3/2023 10:05 PM
only you are saying you are right here
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)
"Everything is subjective unless it proves me wrong"
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:05 PM
There are completely logical flat earth models.
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You just have to deny the evidence.
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berockly (TTG) 3/3/2023 10:05 PM
Im just wanting you to understand that there are other opinions
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:05 PM
It's merely a matter of subjectivity which is exclusive to your own individuality
10:05 PM
Which is you
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/3/2023 10:05 PM
only you are saying you are right here
10:05 PM
everyone says it's subjective
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entertain,me 😎
Just like yall are trying to get me to understand why yall are right
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:05 PM
We are not right, neither are you. There is no objective right or wrong.
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)
We are not right, neither are you. There is no objective right or wrong.
entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:06 PM
Exactly
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/3/2023 10:06 PM
then why are you defending your argument?
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entertain,me 😎
Exactly
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:06 PM
Then im right to say that tulpas are not you.
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
then why are you defending your argument?
entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:06 PM
I'm only defending, to what yall are throwing at me
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/3/2023 10:06 PM
why?
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entertain,me 😎
It's merely a matter of subjectivity which is exclusive to your own individuality
berockly (TTG) 3/3/2023 10:06 PM
Right So, again, pay attention now that you have established it is not a fact Your sense of identifying as your mind is wrong, because i dont view myself as my mind
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:06 PM
If it made sense I'd simply just "understand"
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berockly (TTG)
Right So, again, pay attention now that you have established it is not a fact Your sense of identifying as your mind is wrong, because i dont view myself as my mind
entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:07 PM
This is an opinion
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/3/2023 10:07 PM
everything you say is an opinion
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entertain,me 😎
This is an opinion
berockly (TTG) 3/3/2023 10:07 PM
Yes, but this is the logic you are using aswell
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entertain,me 😎
I'm only defending, to what yall are throwing at me
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:07 PM
We aint throwing nothing, we are not attacking your point, we are saying that your point only makes sense under your definition of you. And we dont agree on that definition therefore your conclussions are meaningless to us.
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
why?
entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:07 PM
Because it's a discussion about my point? Wdym why. Please. dont ask dumb questions
10:07 PM
You have your opinions
10:08 PM
I have mine
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Tewi: I'm going to sleep, but remember it's okay to disagree with one person (who is happy with their current beliefs as well) at the end of the day. Don't get heated. (edited)
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:08 PM
That's as far as it can really go
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/3/2023 10:08 PM
if it's all subjective and there is no right and wrong, why are you arguing for something to be right?
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berockly (TTG) 3/3/2023 10:08 PM
18 of my lives are flashing through my eyes
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:08 PM
Because (once again) its purely subjective
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entertain,me 😎
Because it's a discussion about my point? Wdym why. Please. dont ask dumb questions
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:08 PM
Why are you defending the definition of a word so strongly? Why does your definition matter more than all our personal experiences?
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:08 PM
You're essential asking me why I'm defending my own way of thinking (edited)
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Use common sense
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entertain,me 😎
Because (once again) its purely subjective
berockly (TTG) 3/3/2023 10:08 PM
Right, but you doNt have to prove your perspective is valid to you, we know it is already
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entertain,me 😎
Use common sense
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:09 PM
Only when you use Syntax.
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:09 PM
There isn't anything to prove
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berockly (TTG) 3/3/2023 10:09 PM
We are all aware that your perspective of self is valid
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:09 PM
It's not like it's physical where I can actually see it (edited)
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entertain,me 😎
There isn't anything to prove
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:09 PM
still tulpas are you arent they?
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entertain,me 😎
There isn't anything to prove
berockly (TTG) 3/3/2023 10:09 PM
Then why are you defending it if there is nothing to defend?
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:09 PM
Because it my own opinion
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:09 PM
there isnt anything to prove but if you say tulpas arent you then ill keep arguing the oposite.
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berockly (TTG) 3/3/2023 10:10 PM
Shibi wants to know why you have the perspective of tulpas being you
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:10 PM
Why are yall trying so hard to get be to fumble my words?
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entertain,me 😎
Because it my own opinion
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:10 PM
Which is subjective and equally as correct as the oposite depending on the definition of a single word.
10:10 PM
Therefore you are right to say that tulpas are you.
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berockly (TTG) 3/3/2023 10:10 PM
i dont think anyone wants to see you fumble more
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:10 PM
I just wanted to understand where each of you are coming from
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:10 PM
And im right to say they are not
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:10 PM
But I never will
10:10 PM
Which is why o asked yall to simplify it
10:10 PM
Ages ago
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:10 PM
Lets say the following
10:11 PM
for me the word, "polins" means football match. And for you it means basketball match. And we start arguing if a football match is polins. Who is right?
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:11 PM
If it can't be simplified it's either too complex, open-ended or it just doesn't make sense
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entertain,me 😎
But I never will
berockly (TTG) 3/3/2023 10:11 PM
Well then here Its a matter of perspective, literally, so to understand you merely have to change your perspective, temporarily or otherwise View the world as though you are not your entire minđ
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)
for me the word, "polins" means football match. And for you it means basketball match. And we start arguing if a football match is polins. Who is right?
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:12 PM
or for a better example, we start arguing than in a polins people hit the ball with their feet. I say yes, you say no. Who is right?
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berockly (TTG) 3/3/2023 10:12 PM
Its hard to understand a different perspective if you lock your view iNto a singular one
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)
Lets say the following
entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:12 PM
They aren't in a objective stance because they're very clearly different sports, but the concepts are the exact same thing Because its a sport
10:13 PM
It's all a matter of perspective
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entertain,me 😎
They aren't in a objective stance because they're very clearly different sports, but the concepts are the exact same thing Because its a sport
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:13 PM
Who is right?
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:13 PM
It's is entirely subjecti
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)
Who is right?
entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:13 PM
Neither
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:13 PM
Then the same holds true for the "tulpas are you" or "they are not" discussion. Does it?
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It depends on how you define you.
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:13 PM
Sports are physical so you can objectively say they're different (edited)
10:14 PM
You can't say the same for matter of the mind
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:14 PM
And what?
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I can change the example to be something of the mind.
10:14 PM
It doesnt matter
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:14 PM
What are u asking me to elaborate
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berockly (TTG) 3/3/2023 10:14 PM
Right, so neither is right since you cant objectify the mind
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:14 PM
You cant
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Can you see your mind?
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You know its there
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)
or for a better example, we start arguing than in a polins people hit the ball with their feet. I say yes, you say no. Who is right?
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:15 PM
Why are the 2 people arguing in this scenario?
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:15 PM
But we can't see it
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)
Why are the 2 people arguing in this scenario?
entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:15 PM
Because they have different opinions about a sport that essentially are the same thing but with different balls and rules
10:15 PM
They're still sports in the end
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:15 PM
No, because they disagree on what polins means.
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:16 PM
They're just different I how they work
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:16 PM
one of them thinks polins is football and the other thinks is basketball
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